Bug#1087654: bookworm-pu: package systemd/252.32-1~deb12u1

[Luca Boccassi]

Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
Tags: bookworm
User: ***@packages.debian.org
Usertags: pu
X-Debbugs-Cc: pkg-systemd-***@lists.alioth.debian.org

Dear Release Team,

We would like to upload the latest stable point release of systemd 252
to bookworm-p-u. Stable release branches are maintained upstream with
the intention of providing bug fixes only and no compatibility
breakages, and with automated non-trivial CI jobs that also cover
Debian and Ubuntu. I have already uploaded to p-u.

There are no packaging changes. Debdiff attached. The debdiff excludes
hwdb generated IDs.
The list of commits included can be seen at:

https://github.com/systemd/systemd-stable/compare/v252.31...v252.32

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

Control: tag -1 d-i confirmed

Post by Luca Boccassi
We would like to upload the latest stable point release of systemd 252
to bookworm-p-u. Stable release branches are maintained upstream with
the intention of providing bug fixes only and no compatibility
breakages, and with automated non-trivial CI jobs that also cover
Debian and Ubuntu. I have already uploaded to p-u.
There are no packaging changes. Debdiff attached. The debdiff excludes
hwdb generated IDs.
https://github.com/systemd/systemd-stable/compare/v252.31...v252.32

d-i ack needed for the udeb; CC.

Thanks,

[Cyril Brulebois]

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
Control: tag -1 d-i confirmed

Post by Luca Boccassi
We would like to upload the latest stable point release of systemd 252
to bookworm-p-u. Stable release branches are maintained upstream with
the intention of providing bug fixes only and no compatibility
breakages, and with automated non-trivial CI jobs that also cover
Debian and Ubuntu. I have already uploaded to p-u.
There are no packaging changes. Debdiff attached. The debdiff excludes
hwdb generated IDs.
https://github.com/systemd/systemd-stable/compare/v252.31...v252.32

d-i ack needed for the udeb; CC.

No objections on the d-i side.

That being said, I'm still very much not convinced by those stable
uploads that bundle together trivialities, actual fixes, and behavorial
changes, especially since there seems to be absolutely no documentation
whatsoever:
- changelog.Debian.gz provides zero information;
- NEWS.gz is stuck at v252 (i.e. 32 versions ago).

As a user it's a major PITA to have to go through upstream's git tree
to figure out whether some breakages are just bad luck or actual side
effects of a supposedly-stable update. (I've been there, done that,
multiple times. And yes, I probably could have reported that at the
time, but not enough energy, motivation, and time
)


Cheers,

[Luca Boccassi]

Post by Cyril Brulebois

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
Control: tag -1 d-i confirmed

Post by Luca Boccassi
We would like to upload the latest stable point release of systemd 252
to bookworm-p-u. Stable release branches are maintained upstream with
the intention of providing bug fixes only and no compatibility
breakages, and with automated non-trivial CI jobs that also cover
Debian and Ubuntu. I have already uploaded to p-u.
There are no packaging changes. Debdiff attached. The debdiff excludes
hwdb generated IDs.
https://github.com/systemd/systemd-stable/compare/v252.31...v252.32

d-i ack needed for the udeb; CC.

No objections on the d-i side.
That being said, I'm still very much not convinced by those stable
uploads that bundle together trivialities, actual fixes, and behavorial
changes

Thanks, always nice to see one's (volunteered) work appreciated. From
a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation, since the release of
Bookworm, the work I've been doing in curating these upstream stable
point releases have fixed about ~450 bugs (this excludes changes in
docs, tests, CI, etc). If memory serves, there have been 3 or 4
regressions, so a 1-to-100 ratio. That seems worthwhile to me, but if
RT wants me to stop doing it, please just say so, as it costs me a
significant chunk of my free time to do this work.

Post by Cyril Brulebois
especially since there seems to be absolutely no documentation
- changelog.Debian.gz provides zero information;
- NEWS.gz is stuck at v252 (i.e. 32 versions ago).

Upstream stable releases do not get a curated changelog. If you'd like
them to, please feel free to write them and contribute them. This is a
volunteer effort in an open source project, PRs are always welcome.

Post by Cyril Brulebois
As a user it's a major PITA to have to go through upstream's git tree
to figure out whether some breakages are just bad luck or actual side
effects of a supposedly-stable update. (I've been there, done that,
multiple times. And yes, I probably could have reported that at the
time, but not enough energy, motivation, and time…)

It doesn't seem particularly productive to me to complain about
unspecified bugs that were never even reported to begin with. If you
want to see bugs solved, please at least contribute actionable bug
reports. Thanks.

[Debian Bug Tracking System]

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
tag -1 d-i confirmed

Bug #1087654 [release.debian.org] bookworm-pu: package systemd/252.32-1~deb12u1
Added tag(s) d-i and confirmed.

[Luca Boccassi]

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
Control: tag -1 d-i confirmed

Post by Luca Boccassi
We would like to upload the latest stable point release of systemd 252
to bookworm-p-u. Stable release branches are maintained upstream with
the intention of providing bug fixes only and no compatibility
breakages, and with automated non-trivial CI jobs that also cover
Debian and Ubuntu. I have already uploaded to p-u.
There are no packaging changes. Debdiff attached. The debdiff excludes
hwdb generated IDs.
https://github.com/systemd/systemd-stable/compare/v252.31...v252.32

d-i ack needed for the udeb; CC.

Hi,

Is this a new requirement? It was never needed so far. It's just some
libraries after all, stable releases do not change API/ABI, of course.

[Adam D Barratt]

package release.debian.org
tags 1087654 = bookworm pending
thanks

Hi,

The upload referenced by this bug report has been flagged for acceptance into the proposed-updates queue for Debian bookworm.

Thanks for your contribution!

Upload details
==============

Package: systemd
Version: 252.32-1~deb12u1

Explanation: new upstream stable release

[Debian Bug Tracking System]

Post by Adam D Barratt
package release.debian.org

Limiting to bugs with field 'package' containing at least one of 'release.debian.org'
Limit currently set to 'package':'release.debian.org'

Post by Adam D Barratt
tags 1087654 = bookworm pending

Bug #1087654 [release.debian.org] bookworm-pu: package systemd/252.32-1~deb12u1
Added tag(s) pending; removed tag(s) confirmed and d-i.

Post by Adam D Barratt
thanks

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